Review: Rogue Echo Bike v3.0 I rate 5.0 out of 5.0. I got the Rogue Echo Bike & Rower Package, but I'm just reviewing the bike here. It's the best air bike I've ever tried and the sturdiest I've ever tried. I've tried 3 different kinds. I'm an avid cyclist and all-around fitness fanatic. This Rogue Echo Bike is a big part of my current winter training. For maximizing the average power being put out from your body in a time duration that is from one to tens of minutes (or more), and at the same time, minimizing the damage to your joints. I'm old, and my joints are starting to fail due to age. I used to run a lot. It's just the inevitable. If I put out the power I do on the air bike when running my knees would explode. If you're old and can sprint without destroying your knees, that's great; you don't need an air bike, keep running. If you're a avid cyclist you'll need to change the seat and the pedals that come with this bike. The mountings for the pedals and seat are standard (like most bikes). The stock seat and pedals are fine for people who have never considered doing cycle racing or long distance biking (100 miles plus). Most avid cyclists expect to buy new pedals and sometimes seats separate for their new bikes. If you're not an avid cyclist you'll not like the (bike fly wheel fan) air blowing on you so much, I love it. I used to have to have a large box fan blowing on me when using a road bike on rollers or a bike trainer. Note: the power out is not a linear function of pedaling cadence. I expected the power to be a function of cadence to the third power at higher cadences and it is (see plot image). A hard core racing cyclist will miss the ability to change the cadence for a given power; so if you want to sustain pedaling cadence of 90 RPM (Revolutions Per Minute), you'll need to put in about 758 watts (a little over 1 horse power = 745.7 watts). I hit the rate 92 rpm just once for a few seconds. The bike was moving relative to the floor, swaying and hopping, because I was swaying a little in order to get that much power into it. I only weight 170 lbs and I am 65 years old, so I'm a little bit of a wimp. I'd imagine that a young big and competitive cross fit guy will move the bike across the floor when putting in full power, unless they get trained well in smoothening their strokes. I wonder if bolting down the bike to the floor would help increase the maximum power out that a rider could put out. I think the answer is yes, but I have not verified this. Update (2 weeks in): My strokes are getting smoother. I tend to not lift the bike foot pads off the floor so much now. I still think I could get more power into it if I could add a little more side to side body sway motion in addition to the in-plane body motion. If you have ever sprinted on a real bicycle you know that you sway side to side at least a little to get a maximum sprint speed. I just studied a bunch of youtube cycling videos, it looks like the side to side sway motion varies a lot from rider to rider. Some bike sprinters are smooth and some are not. I think it's a personal preference. The future of air bikes which cost more money (just dreaming): 1. Faster display feedback to the user: It looks like most of these kinds of machines (including elliptical machines) only sample once per revolution (or there about, and I'm just guessing by what I've seen). You have to wait a discernible amount of time to see how fast you're going. Sampling more than once per pedal revolution is not such a hard thing. My old mechanical ball computer mouse can get at least 10 (more or less) samples per ball revolution of it's internal optical x and y chopper wheels; and it's very very cheap. This has bugged me for many decades. Most (if not all) bike computers suck, they are unresponsive because they sample one sample per wheel revolution; it's just bad engineering design and copied by all bike computer makers. The general rule of thumb for the speed of a measuring device is to have a display latency indiscernible by the user. Next question, would display jitter be an issue? The jitter (low pass) filter parameters would need to be balanced against the display delay (latency). Currently, I think the display latency is very far from letting the display be jittery, because of the very low rotation (cadence) sample rate. 2. Add the ability to vary on-the-fly power for a given cadence; like on a Peloton stationary bike or a regular non-stationary bike that shifts gears. 3. Adding more rotational inertia would make the Rogue Echo Bike v3.0 more like riding a regular road bicycle. It does not "glide" much like a road bike. It's very over-damped when comparing to road biking. Pretty much, gliding is not possible. I still love it anyway. I understand there may be no flywheel per se, but there is rotational inertia so long as it has any mass rotating at all. Most "regular" stationary bikes have a prominent fly wheel and it helps simulate gliding. I do question that adding a fly wheel and gliding may or may not be a great thing, but maybe it would. As it is now, it glides what seems like about one revolution (or less), when you stop putting in effort at a typical cadence. Okay, I understand this may add to the possibility of more user injuries, especially with the arm levers. Most stationary bikes already have lots of fly wheel inertia. 4. The ability to vary on-the-fly (or not) the rotational inertia. You'd be able to simulate the rider's mass. Smaller riders would not necessarily be at a disadvantage (or need to compensate for) in a contest. The mechanical complexity would increase considerably. (dreaming big here) 5. By adding non-user power to the fly wheel, in addition to the user's power, we could simulate going down hill. That would help in making the bike more of a therapeutic device. Again, more user injuries. 6. Add side to side sway motion to the bike. Okay this is nuts ... I can think of a lot more; can't we all? If such a "dream machine" was constructed and sold, I'm sure it would not be a profitable product; but I think it's still a constructive exercise to think about it. I think item number 1 is feasible and obvious. The data gotten from the panel while riding: c (RPM) p (watts) 12 8 13 9 14 10 15 11 16 11 17 12 18 13 19 13 20 14 21 17 22 19 23 22 24 24 25 27 26 30 27 32 28 35 29 37 30 40 31 44 32 48 33 52 34 56 35 61 36 65 37 69 38 73 39 77 40 81 41 88 42 94 43 101 44 108 45 115 46 121 47 128 48 136 49 141 50 148 51 157 52 167 53 176 54 185 55 195 56 204 57 213 58 222 59 232 60 241 61 255 62 269 63 283 64 297 65 311 66 325 67 339 68 353 69 367 70 381 71 398 72 414 73 431 74 448 75 465 76 481 77 498 78 515 79 531 80 548 81 569 82 590 83 611 84 632 85 653 86 674 87 695 88 716 89 737 90 758 91 790 92 822

Great price for the bundle for some great equipment

This equipment is the best of the best. Super high quality, both the rower and the bike are built like a tank. Shipping was fast, packaging was solid offering a high degree of protection during shipping. If you buy the bike be sure and get the optional wind deflector. You also need the optional heart rate monitor.

By far the most well built cardio equipment we own. I have been training for over 30 years competitively and was never a fan of “home gym” equipment due to quality however these pieces are incredibly well built and worth every cent!

My wife wanted an airbike and I wanted a rower for a long time. Im really glad I got this combo when it came up. We didn't want anything with large screens and subscriptions. These machines are build very well and give an awesome daily workout for us. Boxes were a little cumbersome but not too heavy for me to lift by hand, but the machines are already mostly assembled which was nice. The price/free-shipping for this equipment, along with the added features in comparison to competitors equipment, were the big selling factors for me. I've used other bikes & rowers at family members places and im glad I went with rogue as a first time buyer.

Great quality and easy to put together, looking forward to some home gym workouts.

Built to last! These products are the Cadillac of equipments.

I absolutely love to suffer on these to machines! I have the Version 1 of the Echo bike and by far the improvements that have been made are amazing. My favorite feature is the bigger monitor. The ECHO rower is the BOOM! The weight allows you to pull as hard as you want without the rower bunny hopping across the floor!!